Wyoming Public Radio | The 100 mile day was based on how far you would travel in 8 hours at a speed of 12.5 mph. "The Hi-Viz was only partially responsible for them getting people back. UP on the east/westline crewbases or change points are: Proviso IL, West Chicago IL (some trains), Clinton IA,Boone IA (short pool), Missouri Valley IA (Clinton long pool), Fremont NE (short pool out of Boone) North Platte NE. Here are> some places I know they run helpers at least occassionally:> > * BNSF/UP: Denver to Palmer Lake. Learn more about what it means to do business with BNSF and the process we use for working with suppliers. Please have a look here to see what other groups are saying about BNSF Railway. I find it ironic that the MILW expandend some of their districts just as deferredmaintenance caused speeds to drop. In order to get a minimum speed of 12 or so MPH on the 0.5% ruling grades, the locomotives should have been able to maintain 25 or more MPH on level track, hence my wondering about 200 mile crew changes. I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. If the district is too long tor its conditions of traffic and geography, the crew hogs out short of its final terminal, and is dogged or patched by a relief crew (idiom varies) two crews have been paid a days wages to do what was supposed to be the work of one. Learn more about our trains, how we operate them, and the variety of railcars we haul, in the informative BNSF Virtual Train Tour. Curiosity about Melstone got to me and found out that it now has a population of 96, down from 136 in 2000. It just affects the waythe train crew's pay is calculated. Today, 41 years later and the HOS at 12 hours (changed Dec. 26, 1972) the crew usually do not have trouble making it from SLO to LA (which is still inter-divisional, but only a one ended pool). I wish I had asked a trainman how the pay was calculated, since some of the turn arounds were short. It is approximately 185 miles long, which was a huge accomplishment back then. I spent quite a few summers in Miles City (my dad's home town) during the 1970's and heard Harlowton mentioned quite a few times, but don't recall hearing about Melstone. 546 posts BNSF Crew Change Points (Transcon and Hi Line) Posted by Doublestack on Monday, June 4, 2007 10:39 PM Good evening, Someone recently asked me how many crew changes it takes to get from Chicago to LA vs. Chicago to Seattle. And, crew change points were (and still are)not always the same for engine crews and for train crews on the same train. ----------------------------------------------, BNSF Railway (Burlington Northern Santa Fe), It is currently Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:55 am, http://www.motorbooks.com/Store/Product _31803.ncm, Brightline Trains LLC (formerly All Aboard Florida and Virgin), California Commuter, Rail Transit, and High Speed Rail (HSR). Jeff, another hotel where you can rub shoulders with men in road service is the Clarion Hotel in Albany, N.Y. About 50/50 on one crewactually making it. You there, Mr. Lee? Bassano was located at almost the exact halfway point on the Sub. This doesn't mean that runs were only 100 miles then or 130 miles now. The hotel provides transportation for thecrews and for passengers who come in or go out of the station in Renssalaer, and it is possible to ride in a van with the railroad employees. Whenthe pool was smaller, you had to have about 30 years in to hold it. The Southern Transcon has been continually enhanced to accommodate the evolving needs of freight and passenger rail. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. This BNSF rail division sees some of the highest tonnage freight traffic in the world (over 100 million tons annually. BNSF has added a crew change at Kremmling, Colo., on the former Rio Grande, and abolished the change at Las Vegas, N.M. Railroads included in this map: They seem to use the Williard crews for the long distance intermodals (from east coast) and Williards for the manifests and commodity trains. This Map of the Month appeared in theMay 2004 issue of Trains magazine. erikem BNSF needles to Winslow. Zug, you guys must have really been tired. Many times after the adoptionof the 130 mile day, the terminals didn't change. Seattle / Spokane / Hauser, ID / Whitefish, MT / Havre, MT / Glasgow, MT / Minot, ND / Fargo, ND / MSP, MN / La Crosse, WI / Chicago . BNSF crew change points. Here aresome places I know they run helpers at least occassionally: * BNSF/UP: Denver to Palmer Lake* BNSF/UP: Denver to Winter Park (Does BNSF use helpers? > * Denver northeast: Sterling, CO? Trenton ON was eliminated as an away from home terminal for Toronto East Pool and Smiths Falls West Pool crews. At Galesburg we have 2 westbound stack trains, a couple of eastbound stackers, eastbound P train, plus the roadrailers, and vehicle trains. A couple less employees to receive benefits. For some reason, I always thought crew change points were determined by how long it took to get there. If I had not already packed my 1893 Guide in preparation for moving, I could give you the name of each road. Something unheard of even 5 years ago, just before the bottom dropped out. Back when there were foru passenger trains each way on the division,except for the City of New Orleans, passenger train crews changed southbound (the City train crews changed northbound), ran to New Orleans (Canton), then ran through McComb to Canton (New Orleans), and then back to McComb, covering 400 miles in 24 hours (and then had 24 hours off). It is interesting when you look at old ETT's. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. Railroads & Locomotives Maps BNSF Railway crew districts. Several projects are currently underway to further expand the route's efficiency by adding triple- and even quadruple-track long stretches of the busiest parts of the Transcon. Note that the Puget Sound Extension and the WP were built in the 1905-1910 time frame and train speeds were up significantly from 30 to 40 years earlier. EDIT: To answer the original poster's question I checked with what limited ressources I have, and found the following CP (ex Soo Line) crew change points in his part of the world. The reason why so many (former complainers included) drive to workit, it's set up to work about 8 round trips per month and pays good. TEXAS, USA On Tuesday, a federal judge in Fort Worth granted BNSF, one of the nation's largest freight companies, a temporary restraining order, blocking nearly 17,000 employees from striking. Opposition is mounting among workers at freight railroad BNSF to a new points-based attendance policy which management has unilaterally implemented. Dickinson crews still run locals between New Salem and Beach including the ever growing rail hub of RICHARDTON ND. Satellite view on Google maps shows a lot of empty lots in the town and I guess that the population may have been 300 to 500 at its peak. I though I saw articles in the mainstream press in the '80's that they were extending crew districts from east of Spokane, WA, across the Idaho panhandle, and over onto the flatland's of Montana. I find it ironic that the MILW expandend some of their districts just as deferredmaintenance caused speeds to drop. November 3, 2022 INDEPENDENCE, Ohio, (Nov. 3, 2022) The BLET and SMART-TD will host a joint town hall meeting next week to discuss the tentative national rail agreement. Enjoy moving trains in breathtaking scenes across the country, all year long. Would this be the right list for the Transcon? BNSF, like other Class I railroads, operates around the clock, seven days a week, every day of the year, and in all weather conditions. Every scheduled train from First Class passenger trains to Fourth Class freights had a scheduled stop for water at Bassano. Official site: BNSF.COM BNSF Railways first-in-the-industry Tribal Relations program seeks to build and strengthen ties with the many diverse tribal nations on BNSFs network, and to foster within BNSF a greater cultural understanding of these tribal nations, their rights and governance, cultural resources, and other crucial issues. I just remembered, while sitting in the Oak Tree Inn at Clinton, IA, that they are the UP's contracted provider for crew lodging away from home. A train in the long pool uses one less crew than if it goes to the short pool. You can rely on BNSFs team of experts to help educate you on the benefits of incorporating our rail network into your supply chain. To participate you must either login or register for an account. > anything I'm missing. Within these districts there are pools that work to/from intermediate terminals, such as Clinton to Marshalltown. On the CPR, in Canada, the longest crew district is the Brooks Sub. (Except when that train gets too long, then it goes back to the short pool.) BNSF Crew Change Points (Transcon and Hi Line). In older times, it would take much longer as the trains were slower. Zug, you guys must have really been tired. But apart from the policy, she said she loves her job. ?La Junta then Dodge City if going to Kansas CityLa Junta then Amarillo if going to Texas or New Mexico.Except AMADEN & DENAMA also change at Boise City because theydo local work. I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. Here we explore how our investments and innovations enable the reliable and efficient delivery of freight. BNSF modified their policy on June 1. Crew change points on the old Santa Fe Transco Author: chicohogger. Major stations: Barstow, Ash Hill; Yards: Needles; Crew Change Points: Needles, Barstow Junctions: Daggett (UPRR Cima Sub) MP 739.6 Highest point: 2187 @ Lavic; Lowest Point: 620 @ Amboy . It would mark a dramatic change to a labor contract that covers about 3,000 workers, or 60 percent of the BNSF system. Vancouver, WA or Pasco, WA-Wishram, WA-Bend, OR-Klamath Falls, OR-Keddie, CA-Stockton, CA? BNSF Crew Change Locations In order to set up activities for the BNSF and other railroads, I can't recall anyone putting out any kind of a list for where crew changes take place. For instance, Sanford, Florida, was the south end of one railroad and the north end of another; both roads were absorbed by the Plant System--which went into the Atlantic Coast Line. Originally theyhad the hot trains, with the lesser ones going to the short pool. Drawback for those that don't live near Clinton is the drive. U.S. and global economies rely on rail, and BNSF is a vital link in the global supply chain. LIONS with CAMERAS. No, I think Rawlins is still very much used for everything but"shooters" (hotshots), which go all the way to Green River without achange. I hear talk about crews having to be changed because trains are late and their time is up, that doesn't seem to go by mileage. Alaska Railfanning / My ARR Photos on Flickr. Some trains that go into LPC or to the connecting roads like the CSX, IHB, BRC, and NS change out at Savanna. There really are some Knowledgeable Fans out there. We are committed to proactively identify, attract and develop long-term partnerships with certified minority, woman and veteran-owned and small disadvantaged businesses, while fulfilling BNSF Vision and Values. - Erik. Edgemont, South Dakota, is a crew change point for the busy BNSF Gillette WY - Alliance NE division. Just west of Minot, the train rolled over the 1792-foot-long, 117-foot-tall Gassman Coulee Trestle, one of many high steel bridges on the GN. They can be added if employees work during periods that are more in demand. Tribal Relations. Jeff, another hotel where you can rub shoulders with men in road service is the Clarion Hotel in Albany, N.Y. Learn more about how the Amarillo project enhances the entire Southern Transcon in this video: Please subscribe to receive occasional email newsletters keeping you in the loop about BNSF and customized for where you live. jeffhergert I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. I know OTR truckers are only to work so many hours before they have to sign out and rest. "At any given time, there are about 300 trains running along the Transcon," added Rasmussen. The Super 8 was their lodging and it was set up with a computer terminal for employees to "see" the railroad and determine what their near future entailed. Zug, I still enjoy talking with railroad employees, but I am very careful about initiating conversations. Barstow CA. Frisco always changed freight crews at Newburg, MO but my grandpa as passenger conductor changed at Monett, MO, which was farther down the line. Approaches to the bridge had to stay under the ruling grade for the area of 1.4%. Here we focus on topics that illustrate our commitment to where we live and work. Goodson said that if employees work on the weekends, they can earn a single point to add to their total. We see this very often here. -- Steve Holmes, Steve Holmes Productions (helping companies communicate through award-winning video)Iowa City, IA, USAhttp://www.shpvideo.com My address: sigerson "at" inav "dot" net (replace "" words withsymbols). Raton, NM??? The Clinton-Mo Valleylong poolhandles mostly intermodal trains. Since crews are usually pooled on a first-in, first-out basis, everyone still has the same opportunity to rack up miles and thus pay. No, they never had aProviso- Boone long pool. * Denver north: Cheyenne, WY, then . Open navigation menu Protests have taken place in cities and towns on BNSF's system, including in Gillette. Then Alliance, NE? Here there be cats. This was indicated by a bold type stripe across the page for every train at Bassano. Forsome railroaders getting in on the other end, actually either end, the first thing they think about is beer.